Hey San Jose Residents....You really need to shoot down this blatant big brother idea...... First garbage trucks, then school buses, public works vehicles, stop lights....etc... Need to march outside of Khamis' office and protest this....
Councilman Johnny Khamis of San Jose recently suggested that garbage trucks should be used to help the police catch suspects. The councilman said that license plate readers can be placed on garbage trucks, and would send information back to police.
This would give police an extra level of surveillance that would be undetected by most people.
“We can cover every street at least once a week and possibly deter thieves from coming into our city,” Khamis told San Jose Mercury News.
“You’re not expecting privacy on a public street,” he added.
By Ramona Giwargis
rgiwargis@mercurynews.com
Mayor Sam Liccardo and Councilmen Johnny Khamis and Raul Peralez
proposed that the city consider strapping license plate readers to the
front of garbage trucks, allowing them to record the plates of every car
along their routes. The data would be fed directly to the Police
Department from the privately operated trash trucks, prompting an
officer to respond to stolen vehicles or cars involved with serious
crime.
"We can cover every street at least once a week and possibly deter
thieves from coming into our city," Khamis said. A committee chaired by
Liccardo that sets the council's agenda voted Wednesday to continue
exploring the idea.
While license plate readers are increasingly being used by police
across the Bay Area, some are alarmed that San Jose is considering
turning the garbage collector into an agent of law enforcement.
Councilman Chappie Jones was opposed to what he called an "extreme"
policy, evoking the "Big Brother" government of George Orwell's
dystopian 1949 novel "1984."
Civil rights advocates said the unusual plan raises "significant
concerns" and could invade the privacy of San Jose residents because of
how the data is collected, stored and analyzed.
"The idea is they would also collect the location of cars as they
drive down the street," said Chris Conley, a policy attorney for ACLU of
Northern California who said he has not heard of any other city
gathering license plate records in such a way. "If it's collected
repeatedly over a long period of time, it can reveal intimate data about
you like attending a religious service or a gay bar. People have a
right to live their lives without constantly being monitored by the
government."
While most residents may not know it, six San Jose police cars
already are fitted with license plate readers that scan car tags every
day while out on patrol. This year's budget pegged an additional $68,400
to pay for two more plate readers.
Khamis said mounting the plate readers on garbage trucks instead
of police cars wouldn't be any more intrusive than what's already being
done. "This is a public street," Khamis said. "You're not expecting
privacy on a public street."
Garbage pickup trucks travel the entire city each week, Khamis added, giving them broader reach than a patrol car and lending a hand to a shrinking police force with roughly 950 cops.
Khamis called the idea a unique approach to maximizing technology to thwart crime. The city and county of San Francisco uses license plate scanners on its Muni buses, but only to identify vehicles that are blocking bus stop access for towing or citation. Assistant Police Chief Eddie Garcia said the department welcomes any outside help with combatting crime, but worried about how the department's thin staff would respond to a hauler's discovery of stolen cars.
"In a perfect world with the right staffing, I think it would be beneficial," Garcia said. "But right now, we need to ask ourselves if we have the capacity to take on something like this. If we don't have the staffing, it just puts an added burden on us at that point."
The Police Department can use its 26 community service officers to respond to a stolen vehicle, but only if it's unoccupied. Otherwise, a police officer would have to be called.
There are also questions about whether the city's four private haulers will agree to the idea. Khamis said he spoke with one company that was "enthusiastic" about it.
Officials from GreenTeam of San Jose, which services about 48,000 single-family homes in west and central San Jose, told this newspaper the company is on board.
"GreenTeam of San Jose would love to help the city of San Jose thwart crime," said outreach manager Weslie McConkey. "We are interested in learning more about the proposal to install license plate readers on our garbage and recycling trucks."
But Conley also worries San Jose is not doing enough to engage residents in the debate, comparing it with how the city's Police Department quietly purchased a drone that drew outcry over potential privacy concerns when it became public.
"Our hope was they would have learned from the drone once it became a public fiasco," Conley said. "They need to put the plan in writing and let the public review it."
Khamis said Wednesday's action is only the first step in a long process. The proposal calls for city officials to explore the "feasibility, legality and civil liberties implications" of garbage-truck mounted license plate readers. Questions the council members asked the city to consider include the process of transferring license data from the private garbage trucks to the police, whether they would be subjected to the same or different policies governing police car license readers and whether other cities have taken similar measures and how they worked.
"We'll look at privacy concerns and talk to ACLU before we do anything," Khamis said.
“We can cover every street at least once a week and possibly deter thieves from coming into our city,” Khamis told San Jose Mercury News.
“You’re not expecting privacy on a public street,” he added.
By Ramona Giwargis
rgiwargis@mercurynews.com
SAN JOSE
-- The noisy garbage trucks that lumber down San Jose streets every
week could soon pick up more than just trash -- they might also scan
your license plate and all your neighbors' tags, too, in a proposed
city-wide sweep for stolen vehicles that has civil libertarians crying
foul.
A garbage truck operated by Garden City Sanitation Inc. for the city of
San Jose collects garbage on Wednesday, Aug. 19, 2015, in San Jose,
Calif.
(Dai Sugano, Bay Area News Group)
Garbage pickup trucks travel the entire city each week, Khamis added, giving them broader reach than a patrol car and lending a hand to a shrinking police force with roughly 950 cops.
Khamis called the idea a unique approach to maximizing technology to thwart crime. The city and county of San Francisco uses license plate scanners on its Muni buses, but only to identify vehicles that are blocking bus stop access for towing or citation. Assistant Police Chief Eddie Garcia said the department welcomes any outside help with combatting crime, but worried about how the department's thin staff would respond to a hauler's discovery of stolen cars.
"In a perfect world with the right staffing, I think it would be beneficial," Garcia said. "But right now, we need to ask ourselves if we have the capacity to take on something like this. If we don't have the staffing, it just puts an added burden on us at that point."
The Police Department can use its 26 community service officers to respond to a stolen vehicle, but only if it's unoccupied. Otherwise, a police officer would have to be called.
There are also questions about whether the city's four private haulers will agree to the idea. Khamis said he spoke with one company that was "enthusiastic" about it.
Officials from GreenTeam of San Jose, which services about 48,000 single-family homes in west and central San Jose, told this newspaper the company is on board.
"GreenTeam of San Jose would love to help the city of San Jose thwart crime," said outreach manager Weslie McConkey. "We are interested in learning more about the proposal to install license plate readers on our garbage and recycling trucks."
But Conley also worries San Jose is not doing enough to engage residents in the debate, comparing it with how the city's Police Department quietly purchased a drone that drew outcry over potential privacy concerns when it became public.
"Our hope was they would have learned from the drone once it became a public fiasco," Conley said. "They need to put the plan in writing and let the public review it."
Khamis said Wednesday's action is only the first step in a long process. The proposal calls for city officials to explore the "feasibility, legality and civil liberties implications" of garbage-truck mounted license plate readers. Questions the council members asked the city to consider include the process of transferring license data from the private garbage trucks to the police, whether they would be subjected to the same or different policies governing police car license readers and whether other cities have taken similar measures and how they worked.
"We'll look at privacy concerns and talk to ACLU before we do anything," Khamis said.